<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Terry Pratchett&#8217;s Going Postal [Review]</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.geek-speak.co.uk/2010/06/terry-pratchetts-going-postal-review/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.geek-speak.co.uk/2010/06/terry-pratchetts-going-postal-review/</link>
	<description>Pure Geekery</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:05:38 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Chris H</title>
		<link>http://www.geek-speak.co.uk/2010/06/terry-pratchetts-going-postal-review/comment-page-1/#comment-8745</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 00:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geek-speak.co.uk/?p=3923#comment-8745</guid>
		<description>Thanks Alex. I&#039;ve often wondered how much of a say Terry Pratchett gets in what&#039;s included and what&#039;s not... especially given that he has a cameo role in every adaptation so far. What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Alex. I&#39;ve often wondered how much of a say Terry Pratchett gets in what&#39;s included and what&#39;s not&#8230; especially given that he has a cameo role in every adaptation so far. What do you think?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ALEX</title>
		<link>http://www.geek-speak.co.uk/2010/06/terry-pratchetts-going-postal-review/comment-page-1/#comment-8744</link>
		<dc:creator>ALEX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 00:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geek-speak.co.uk/?p=3923#comment-8744</guid>
		<description>The movie took a great story with witty humor, dialogue and interesting characters, and stripped it down to a B grade play.  i was on the fence about the movie, and i was already taking into consideration the fact that adaptations rarely live up to the original, when the one line that best sums up Adora Belle&#039;s personality and uniqueness was trashed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;in the book, when moist asks adora belle, &quot;would you like to have dinner tonight?&quot; she replies (just from memory) something along the lines of &quot;yes, i rather enjoy having dinner every night, thank you very much. &quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;in the movie, she replies &quot;with you? i&#039;ve got things to do but thanks for asking.&quot; cue porn music.  scratch that, ive seen some porn with better scripts.  did the director/writer even read the book? why change already amazing dialogue?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;yet the director/writer tries to fit in the really stupid stuff, like in the hanging scene when drunknott walks up and moist shouts &quot;REPRIEVE!&quot;.  wtf?  the whole scene was a run on sentence (like this paragraph) in order to stay true to the book, at least dialogue-wise.  sadly, the movie even fails to do that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;the movie moist was way too hectic and frantic.  sure, one could argue that death has that effect on a man.  the thing about moist, though, is that he is suppose to give off an air of complete likeability and nonchalance, so that even when he is begging and pleading for his life, people think that he&#039;s just having a good time.  i honestly thought at first that the movie moist was criminal number 1 who is hanged before moist in order to illustrate the definitey (is this even a word?) of hanging, because most people don&#039;t associate terry pratchet with death (maybe with Death, though), and would not take the scene seriously.  lo and behold, however, pitiful criminal #1 turns out to be our beloved hero, Moist.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;the thing that makes an adaptation good is not trying to include every little thing from the book, but to incorporate the parts that make it unique.  plot wise, terry pratchet books aren&#039;t exactly gripping thriller mysteries, but the clever banter and characters are what the books worth reading.  all the movie did was take some characters with the same name and ran them through a similar plot.  plot=plot does not mean movie=book</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The movie took a great story with witty humor, dialogue and interesting characters, and stripped it down to a B grade play.  i was on the fence about the movie, and i was already taking into consideration the fact that adaptations rarely live up to the original, when the one line that best sums up Adora Belle&#39;s personality and uniqueness was trashed.</p>
<p>in the book, when moist asks adora belle, &#8220;would you like to have dinner tonight?&#8221; she replies (just from memory) something along the lines of &#8220;yes, i rather enjoy having dinner every night, thank you very much. &#8221; </p>
<p>in the movie, she replies &#8220;with you? i&#39;ve got things to do but thanks for asking.&#8221; cue porn music.  scratch that, ive seen some porn with better scripts.  did the director/writer even read the book? why change already amazing dialogue?</p>
<p>yet the director/writer tries to fit in the really stupid stuff, like in the hanging scene when drunknott walks up and moist shouts &#8220;REPRIEVE!&#8221;.  wtf?  the whole scene was a run on sentence (like this paragraph) in order to stay true to the book, at least dialogue-wise.  sadly, the movie even fails to do that.</p>
<p>the movie moist was way too hectic and frantic.  sure, one could argue that death has that effect on a man.  the thing about moist, though, is that he is suppose to give off an air of complete likeability and nonchalance, so that even when he is begging and pleading for his life, people think that he&#39;s just having a good time.  i honestly thought at first that the movie moist was criminal number 1 who is hanged before moist in order to illustrate the definitey (is this even a word?) of hanging, because most people don&#39;t associate terry pratchet with death (maybe with Death, though), and would not take the scene seriously.  lo and behold, however, pitiful criminal #1 turns out to be our beloved hero, Moist.</p>
<p>the thing that makes an adaptation good is not trying to include every little thing from the book, but to incorporate the parts that make it unique.  plot wise, terry pratchet books aren&#39;t exactly gripping thriller mysteries, but the clever banter and characters are what the books worth reading.  all the movie did was take some characters with the same name and ran them through a similar plot.  plot=plot does not mean movie=book</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Chris H</title>
		<link>http://www.geek-speak.co.uk/2010/06/terry-pratchetts-going-postal-review/comment-page-1/#comment-8704</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geek-speak.co.uk/?p=3923#comment-8704</guid>
		<description>&quot;But that&#039;s what fans do, we nitpick. It&#039;s our way of showing that we really care.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I like that :) Thanks for posting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But that&#39;s what fans do, we nitpick. It&#39;s our way of showing that we really care.&#8221;</p>
<p>I like that :) Thanks for posting!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Isriddari</title>
		<link>http://www.geek-speak.co.uk/2010/06/terry-pratchetts-going-postal-review/comment-page-1/#comment-8702</link>
		<dc:creator>Isriddari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geek-speak.co.uk/?p=3923#comment-8702</guid>
		<description>I&#039;d like to squeeze in to this conversation to add my reasoning for the death penalty.&lt;br&gt;Gilt&#039;s got everything to lose yet nothing to gain. Add to the bet Moist&#039;s life. Fair deal? In that way it was Vetinari pulling his little strings.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course there&#039;s lot that one can nitpick, for example I thought that Moist chose to send a book was cheating. Having Ridcully do it, as in the book, is a fair and a nice surprise. But that&#039;s what fans do, we nitpick. It&#039;s our way of showing that we really care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;d like to squeeze in to this conversation to add my reasoning for the death penalty.<br />Gilt&#39;s got everything to lose yet nothing to gain. Add to the bet Moist&#39;s life. Fair deal? In that way it was Vetinari pulling his little strings.</p>
<p>Of course there&#39;s lot that one can nitpick, for example I thought that Moist chose to send a book was cheating. Having Ridcully do it, as in the book, is a fair and a nice surprise. But that&#39;s what fans do, we nitpick. It&#39;s our way of showing that we really care.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Chris H</title>
		<link>http://www.geek-speak.co.uk/2010/06/terry-pratchetts-going-postal-review/comment-page-1/#comment-8683</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 14:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geek-speak.co.uk/?p=3923#comment-8683</guid>
		<description>That&#039;s very generous of you, but I think it was just  a brain-fart on my part! My favourite story arc was the Death ones - Mort, Reaper Man and Hogfather.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Be careful with those exclamation marks. This is a public forum and someone from Mental Health Services might see them! :)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Spot on with the LOTR series, by the way. The films are much better than the books. I think that&#039;s partly because the story had to be compressed a little, so it moved along more quickly than the originals. I hadn&#039;t heard of Temeraire until just there - it looks very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s very generous of you, but I think it was just  a brain-fart on my part! My favourite story arc was the Death ones &#8211; Mort, Reaper Man and Hogfather.</p>
<p>Be careful with those exclamation marks. This is a public forum and someone from Mental Health Services might see them! :)</p>
<p>Spot on with the LOTR series, by the way. The films are much better than the books. I think that&#39;s partly because the story had to be compressed a little, so it moved along more quickly than the originals. I hadn&#39;t heard of Temeraire until just there &#8211; it looks very interesting.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: James Donovan Sunderland</title>
		<link>http://www.geek-speak.co.uk/2010/06/terry-pratchetts-going-postal-review/comment-page-1/#comment-8682</link>
		<dc:creator>James Donovan Sunderland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 14:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geek-speak.co.uk/?p=3923#comment-8682</guid>
		<description>Well, I suppose it&#039;s because you retained a fondness for the previous installments in the City Watch arc? It&#039;s my favourite Discworld arc btw. My least favourite is probably the Rincewind arc, and even that I find lots to like about. Pratchett ftw.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No, I don&#039;t agree that the in-movie explanation makes any sense whatsoever. Vetinari would say that to Moist in private, but in front of Reacher??? And this is supposed to raise no eyebrows whatsoever, that the POSTMASTER GENERAL would lose his LIFE, in a PUBLIC HANGING, if he lost a BET against the Grand Trunk??? The caps are supposed to represent my voice rising higher with incredulity, and the multiple punctuation marks my increasing sense of bewilderment and induced insanity...!!!!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No it just makes no sense whatsoever, it&#039;s poor scriptwriting. I can make plenty of allowances for adaptation decay, for instance I think Peter Jackson did such a bang-on job with LOTR that LOTR to me is the one single instance where the movie ends up better than the book, and I&#039;m thrilled that Jackson is taking on the Temeraire series, I can think of no better person. But when the internal coherence of a movie becomes lacking it&#039;s just plain bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I suppose it&#39;s because you retained a fondness for the previous installments in the City Watch arc? It&#39;s my favourite Discworld arc btw. My least favourite is probably the Rincewind arc, and even that I find lots to like about. Pratchett ftw.</p>
<p>No, I don&#39;t agree that the in-movie explanation makes any sense whatsoever. Vetinari would say that to Moist in private, but in front of Reacher??? And this is supposed to raise no eyebrows whatsoever, that the POSTMASTER GENERAL would lose his LIFE, in a PUBLIC HANGING, if he lost a BET against the Grand Trunk??? The caps are supposed to represent my voice rising higher with incredulity, and the multiple punctuation marks my increasing sense of bewilderment and induced insanity&#8230;!!!!!!</p>
<p>No it just makes no sense whatsoever, it&#39;s poor scriptwriting. I can make plenty of allowances for adaptation decay, for instance I think Peter Jackson did such a bang-on job with LOTR that LOTR to me is the one single instance where the movie ends up better than the book, and I&#39;m thrilled that Jackson is taking on the Temeraire series, I can think of no better person. But when the internal coherence of a movie becomes lacking it&#39;s just plain bad.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Chris H</title>
		<link>http://www.geek-speak.co.uk/2010/06/terry-pratchetts-going-postal-review/comment-page-1/#comment-8681</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 13:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geek-speak.co.uk/?p=3923#comment-8681</guid>
		<description>Doh! Quite right, I&#039;ve no idea why I called her Corporal Angua. She&#039;s even referred to as Sergeant in the adaptation. I&#039;ve changed it in the review.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree that they weren&#039;t able to portray Moist&#039;s transformation fully, and maybe if I hadn&#039;t read the book at all I&#039;d be confused by it. I&#039;m wondering if there&#039;s a hope (by TP&#039;s publishers) that people who&#039;ve watched the series will buy the book to learn more... That&#039;s probably putting too much faith in their marketing ability :)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the death sentence - Vetinari says that if Moist fails he will have outlived his usefulness. I think that&#039;s fair enough, but I would have imagined Vetinari&#039;s style to be more attuned to having Moist snatched in the night and quietly executed rather than going public with it. Still, I reckon the real point was just to build tension before the big finish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doh! Quite right, I&#39;ve no idea why I called her Corporal Angua. She&#39;s even referred to as Sergeant in the adaptation. I&#39;ve changed it in the review.</p>
<p>I agree that they weren&#39;t able to portray Moist&#39;s transformation fully, and maybe if I hadn&#39;t read the book at all I&#39;d be confused by it. I&#39;m wondering if there&#39;s a hope (by TP&#39;s publishers) that people who&#39;ve watched the series will buy the book to learn more&#8230; That&#39;s probably putting too much faith in their marketing ability :)</p>
<p>As for the death sentence &#8211; Vetinari says that if Moist fails he will have outlived his usefulness. I think that&#39;s fair enough, but I would have imagined Vetinari&#39;s style to be more attuned to having Moist snatched in the night and quietly executed rather than going public with it. Still, I reckon the real point was just to build tension before the big finish.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: James Donovan Sunderland</title>
		<link>http://www.geek-speak.co.uk/2010/06/terry-pratchetts-going-postal-review/comment-page-1/#comment-8680</link>
		<dc:creator>James Donovan Sunderland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 12:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.geek-speak.co.uk/?p=3923#comment-8680</guid>
		<description>At this point Angua is already made Sergeant, probably Vimes&#039;s best. Not Corporal.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, there&#039;ll always be adaptation decay. I didn&#039;t like the episodes, but I suspect it&#039;s because I&#039;ve read the book and loved it. As a standalone movie, I suppose it works well enough, although the characterization of Moist and his character development is nowhere near strong enough. They were unable to fully portray his progress along the road to redemption, from a low rogue to the avatar of hope he becomes. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This in the Sky series was highly unconvincing, and the moment where Groat says Moist is the best Postmaster General ever is, as a result, cringeworthy. Not if you&#039;ve read the book however! But the viewer shouldn&#039;t be left to fill in the blanks for himself like this.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, what possessed them to make Lord Vetinari impose the death penalty on Moist if he lost the wager? Insane, illogical, no justification possible. This was a jarringly bad section, even if you haven&#039;t read the book first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point Angua is already made Sergeant, probably Vimes&#39;s best. Not Corporal.</p>
<p>Well, there&#39;ll always be adaptation decay. I didn&#39;t like the episodes, but I suspect it&#39;s because I&#39;ve read the book and loved it. As a standalone movie, I suppose it works well enough, although the characterization of Moist and his character development is nowhere near strong enough. They were unable to fully portray his progress along the road to redemption, from a low rogue to the avatar of hope he becomes. </p>
<p>This in the Sky series was highly unconvincing, and the moment where Groat says Moist is the best Postmaster General ever is, as a result, cringeworthy. Not if you&#39;ve read the book however! But the viewer shouldn&#39;t be left to fill in the blanks for himself like this.</p>
<p>Also, what possessed them to make Lord Vetinari impose the death penalty on Moist if he lost the wager? Insane, illogical, no justification possible. This was a jarringly bad section, even if you haven&#39;t read the book first.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

<!-- Dynamic page generated in 1.642 seconds. -->
<!-- Cached page generated by WP-Super-Cache on 2012-02-05 06:05:30 -->

